elfi

Sumfwnw apolutws Elpida, mono pou amfivallw an o xeiristis tou provolea tha vrei efkola ti dunami na ton strepsei ston idio tou ton eafto. Koita gurw sou...Pws merikoi anthrwpoi ston planiti koimountai usixoi ta vradia (me xamilwmeno to fws tou provolea tous i isws kai teleiws svisto) otan exaitias tous uparxei peina, ftwxeia, paidiki douleia, porneia, paidiki thnisimotita, tromokratia, fanatismos kai alla polla....Kapoios na mas episkevasei tous provoleis vre paidia....

Sugnwmi gia tin apaisiodoxia mou alla i tha stamatisw na skeftomai i tha sunexisw na ekfrazw apaisiodoxia kai sigoura to prwto einai xeirotero

Kali sas nuxta

Elfi

- Πουλιέται άραγε η γνώση; - .-= Η ΓΝΩΣΗ =-.26/01/2005, 21:41:04

Elpida itan katalutiki i parousia sou kai ta grafomena sou se afto to forum. Perigrafeis apsoga tin pragmatikotita ( to xrima einai simera kinitirios dunami) kai apo tin alli dineis tin pragmatiki diastasi tou thematos me tin akolouthi frasi: Σημαντικό λοιπόν είναι, όχι το πόσα χρήματα μπορεί να διαθέσει κανείς αλλά πόσο καλά μπορεί να χειριστεί την εκάστοτε πληροφορία προκειμένου να την μετατρέψει σε γνώση.
Afti loipon i ikanotita tou anthrwpou na xeiristei tin ekastote pliroforia kai na tin metatrepsi se gnwsi einai to pleon krisimo thema kai zitoumeno stin simerini epoxi. Kai thelei polu kopo, aparnisi ( "prepei polla na arnitheis gia na kerdiseis ta ousiwdestera"-IM Panagiwtopoulos) kai upomoni gia na mathei o antrwpos na xeirizetai tin pliroforia me kritiki skepsi.
Nomizw sto foroum i lexi gnwsi taftizetai pleon xekathara me tin pnevmatiki kalliergeia i opoia den einai thema xrimatwn alla apotelesma gonimou dialogou kai gonimis amfisvitisis twn pantwn kai panw ap'ola tou idiou mas tou eaftou....Kai an i apoluti aftognwsia einai outopia den peirazei: Xreiazetai i outopia. H apousia tis einai varvarotita

Elfi

- Πουλιέται άραγε η γνώση; - .-= Η ΓΝΩΣΗ =-.22/01/2005, 15:56:26

Krisna, mou arese polu pou anaferthikes stin eleftheria tis voulisis kai sto dikaiwma stin epilogi. Mono pou gia na uparxei dikaiwma stin epilogi prepei na uparxei kai epilogi. Kai dustuxws stin epoxi mas(oxi mono sto thema tis gnwsis) i epilogi pou exeis einai i afto pou kanoun oloi i tipota.
Sugxwreste me gia tous tonous apaisiodoxias alla eimai apo ekeinous pou pistevoun oti mesa apo tin apaisiodoxia vgainei mia tromeri diathesi na agwnisteis gia na veltiwseis tin katastasi pou katakrineis.

Rostar efxaristw gia to munima, aplws mexri twra sti zwi mou pote den me travouse to elkustiko perituligma alla to elkustiko perioxemo kai eftuxws uparxoun kai alloi anthrwpoi pou akolouthoun ton idio dromo.

Filika mia sumvouli se olou thelw na dwsw: Sto dromo tis gnwsis to simantiko einai na eimaste ikanoi kathe stigmi na thusiasoume afto pou eimaste gia afto pou tha mporousame na ginoume pros to kalutero

Kalo SavatoKuriako. To Louxembourgo einai akoma kruo.....

Elfi

- Πουλιέται άραγε η γνώση; - .-= Η ΓΝΩΣΗ =-.22/01/2005, 01:01:29

Pragmatika o anthrwpos sto dromo tis aftognwsias peftei se lakouves, kakotexnies, pagides pou stinoun oloi oi swtires. Arxizei na psaxnei tis apantiseis se proswpa pou isxurizontai pws tis exoun mono pou gia na tis dwsoun prepei na plirwseis. Pistevei oti oi oloi oi alloi einai katoxoi tis apolutis gnwsis ektos apo ton eafto tou. Fovatai o simerinos anthrwpos giati zei monos, apomwnomenos kai elpizei oti oi alloi, oi "sofoi", oi "daskaloi" tha ton voithisoun na xeperasei ta opoia provlimata. Yparxei lusi? Mallon oxi. Aperitte, ti mporoume na kanoume gia na veltiwsoume tin katastasi? Dwse mas kamia sumvouli...mono prosexe min mas zitiseis xrimata gia tin paroxi sumvoulwn giati.....xereis
Oi megaluteroi daskaloi sti zwi mas einai oi empeiries mas, ta lathi mas, o anthrwpos mas....ola afta apo ta opoia mathainoume na gnwrizoume kalutera ton eafto mas Ola ta alla einai ampelofilosofies tis stigmis....xasimo xronou. A nai xexasa Daskaloi einai kai ekeinoi pou ta logia tous ta ekanan praxi, ekeinoi pou gemisan ton kosmo me prwtogeni skepsi, pou xekinisan apo to miden....Pou eftiaxan theatro otan afto den upirxe, pou milisan gia sumpan otan o aplos kosmos pisteve stin monadikotita tis uparxeis tis gis, pou to mono antallagma pou zitousan einai i afupnisi twn suneidisewn. Kali sas nuxta apo to kruo Luxembourgo. Edw oi anthrwpoi psaxnontai polu kai plirwnoun polu gia na mathoun, gia na paroun ti gnwsi. Kamia kali idea gia na stamatisoume afti tin katrakula?

Elfi

- Τί το ήθελα;;;; - - Κινηματογράφος -30/01/2005, 23:34:22

TAO de mporw para na sumfwnisw mazi sou. H didaskalia einai afti pou metraei.

Tithetai omws kai ena zitima ithikis taxews: H sumpraxi logwn kai ergwn. Ekei stirizetai i elpida anupswsis tis anthrwpinis fusis. Kai ekei ligo mas ta xalane oi megaloi "daskaloi" tou simera.

Den peirazei omwns o kathenas monos tou MPOREI kai PREPEI na ta kataferei sto dromo pros tin aftognwsia.

Elfi

- Τί το ήθελα;;;; - - Κινηματογράφος -30/01/2005, 18:17:40

Deva theloume oloi na diavasoume ti sunexeia. Einai sigouro oti kati polu kalo mas epifulassei i poreia. Perimenoume na se diavasoume. Exallou exeis dunati grafi. Kanenas de tha meinei adiaforos.

Pixeldream kata tin tapeini mou panta apopsi i kritiki sou einai "trofi" gia ti sunexeia tis suzitisis. Mpravo sunexise etsi. Sigoura exeis kataferei na kaneis viwma afto pou eipe o Galilaios: "H kaluteri pigi gnwsewn einai i amfivolia"

ps: Thlivomai vathutata otan diavazw ta sxetika me tin aporipsi twn forewn tou aids apo ton Osho. Afto einai ena sumadi megalis adunamias. There is no perfection vevaia...alla apo daskalo philosophias kai tropou zwis alla perimenei kaneis. As anoixoume omws tin kardia mas kai to mualo mas kai as akousoume kai alla prin vgaloume porisma...Na thumaste oti akoma kai an vriskesai sto swsto dromo tha se patisoun an meneis akinitos.

Eis anamoni loipon...

Elfi

- Τί το ήθελα;;;; - - Κινηματογράφος -30/01/2005, 13:43:15

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Elfi, δεν βαρέθηκες να περπατάς και να τσιμπάς ? Ξέχασες πως κάποτε μπορούσες να πετάξεις ?

Geia sas,

Deva all you need is love pou leei kai to tragoudi (to akouw afti ti stigmi kai nomizw oti tairiazei stin periptwsi)
Den exw kati proswpiko mazi sou kai xairomai pou katadikases tin idea tou theretrou kai olwn twn sunakolouthwn.

Grafeis wraia, les pragmata pou ta perissotera me ekfrazoun alla dexou kai to dikaiwma allwn anagnwstwn na provaloun kapoia kritiki. Den eipa oti esu anaferes to thema tou theretrou alla ithela na katastisw safes prwta ap'ola ston eafto mou oti kai esu eisai antithetos me tetoies praktikes. Min katigoreis ton Pixeldream pou parousiase to link, exallou esu anaferthikes sto onoma enos megalou daskalou kai o pixeldream fwtise mia alli ptuxi tis pragmatikotitas.

Den thelw na pw perissotera perimenontas tapeina tin epomeni grafi sou.

By the way, diavases tin apantisi mou gia ton Hrakleito sto allo thema? :"Thee mou deixe mou poios eimai?" gia na deis oti siga siga arxizw kai egw na petaw....siga siga exontas epignwsi twn ateleiwn mou kai tis elattwmatikis anthrwpinis fusis mou....

Opws kai esu den thelw na apodeixw tipota. Mou aresei i antallagi apopsewn, i suzitisi kai ola osa graftikan mexri stigmis apo olous.Perimenw kai ta epomena apo sena, ton pixeldream kai olous osous summetexoun

Elfi

- Τί το ήθελα;;;; - - Κινηματογράφος -30/01/2005, 00:28:08

quote:

Α! που ' σαι φίλε pixeldream ? Δεν γνωρίζω την αγγλικήν, εκξσιους μι. Μίλα ρωμέϊκα να καταλαβαινόμαστε δηλ.
Γεια χαρά,
Deva

Pws sunenoeisai me ton Osho? Milaei ellinika?

Elfi

- Τί το ήθελα;;;; - - Κινηματογράφος -30/01/2005, 00:09:33

Pixeldream efxaristoume gia to link sto website tou Osho.

Kala foveri xlidi sto guesthouse!! Oxi toso apo apopsi poluteleias oso apo apopsi eswterikis diakosmisis...Fovero!!!O tupos einai apisteftos! To website polu kala stimeno, me oles tis aparaitites plirofories (mexri kai currency convertor prosferei). Toso teleia fainontai ola, pou aidiazw giati teleiotita stin anthrwpini fusi den uparxei....(eftuxws)kai oute o Osho mporei na einai teleios alla vgazei polla lefta kai exei kai resort diko tou....Telika mou fainetai tha ton rwtisw pws ta katafere.

Deva einai aparaitito na pame sto guesthouse gia ti swtiria tis psuxi mas i oxi? Dustuxws eimai ftwxos den exw lefta oute gia taxidia stin India oute gia vivlia oute gia tipota. Pantws ekei pou ithela na ginw giatros otan megalwsw twra thelw na ginw gourou kai na exw kai egw tetoio guesthouse kai website kai na me xeroun oloi...Ax anthrwpini mataiotita

Elfi

- Οι Τρόποι Μας - Απόψεις, Προτάσεις κ.ά.03/02/2005, 01:10:27

Ton anthrwpo den prepei na ton krinoume mono apo ton tropo pou milaei alla kai apo ton tropo pou swpainei.........asxeto

Apo ti stigmi pou summetexeis se diadiktuako forum graptws tha prepei na eisai etoimos kai gia tis duskolies

Na valoume taxi sto grapto logo? Gia poio logo? Opoios thelei mas diavazei, opoios thelei den tha mas diavasei....Ti simainei taxi sto grapto logo??? Kai malista dimiourgika???

Den tha dikasw egw tis lexeis....pou toso afthona reoun stin othoni tou pc mou....

Elfi

- ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ Ο ΜΕΓΑΣ - .-= ΜΥΘΟΣ & ΘΡΗΣΚΕΙΑ =-.31/01/2005, 23:12:03

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Ο προβολέας λοιπόν ας στραφεί από τον καθένα πάνω στον ίδιο του τον εαυτό και όχι απέναντι.

Sugnwmi gia tin apaisiodoxia mou alla i tha stamatisw na skeftomai i tha sunexisw na ekfrazw apaisiodoxia kai sigoura to prwto einai xeirotero

Kali sas nuxta

Elfi

- ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ Ο ΜΕΓΑΣ - .-= ΜΥΘΟΣ & ΘΡΗΣΚΕΙΑ =-.26/01/2005, 21:41:04

Elfi

- ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ Ο ΜΕΓΑΣ - .-= ΜΥΘΟΣ & ΘΡΗΣΚΕΙΑ =-.22/01/2005, 15:56:26

Kalo SavatoKuriako. To Louxembourgo einai akoma kruo.....

Elfi

- ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ Ο ΜΕΓΑΣ - .-= ΜΥΘΟΣ & ΘΡΗΣΚΕΙΑ =-.22/01/2005, 01:01:29

Elfi

- Οι Τρόποι Μας - Απόψεις, Προτάσεις κ.ά.03/02/2005, 01:10:27

Ton anthrwpo den prepei na ton krinoume mono apo ton tropo pou milaei alla kai apo ton tropo pou swpainei.........asxeto

Apo ti stigmi pou summetexeis se diadiktuako forum graptws tha prepei na eisai etoimos kai gia tis duskolies

Na valoume taxi sto grapto logo? Gia poio logo? Opoios thelei mas diavazei, opoios thelei den tha mas diavasei....Ti simainei taxi sto grapto logo??? Kai malista dimiourgika???

Den tha dikasw egw tis lexeis....pou toso afthona reoun stin othoni tou pc mou....

Elfi

- ΘΕΑΣΗ ΔΙΠΛΩΝ ΑΡΙΘΜΩΝ ΚΑΤ' ΕΠΑΝΑΛΗΨΗ (πχ. 11:11, 22:22, 11:33....) - .-= ΤΟ ΠΑΡΑΞΕΝΟ =-.04/02/2005, 16:43:12

Aftognwsia????Mmm Poios (atelis) anthrwpos mporei na gnwrisei pragmatika ton eafto tou????Poios mporei na ginei antikeimenikos kritis tou eaftou tou?? E Deva? Poios??? Pws xereis oti ftaneis stin apoluti aftognwsia???Den tha to matheis pote.....Mporei na ftaseis se upsulo epipedo gnwsis tou eaftou sou alla stin teleiotita pote...An min exoume aftapates Deva exeis aftognwsia? Eisai teleios? Apantise mou eilikrina giati aftognwsia pragmatiki kai apoluti simainei oti exeis aggixei tin teleiotita alla afto den ginetai pote. O anthrwpos einai atelis Megala vimata pros tin teleiotita nai mporei na kanei alla den tin ftanei pote.

H aftognwsia den einai i upertati gnwsi. H aftognwsia se voithaei sto dromo apoktisis tis upertatis gnwsis pou kai pali den ti ftaneis pote.

Kaka ta psemata, i anthrwpini fusi einai atelis kai afto vevaia den einai oute kako oute kalo. Etsi einai...

Min psaxnete apegnwsmena orismous tis gnwsis.Aplws koitaxte gurw sas,
taxidepste, diavaste vivlia, miliste me olous - plousious, ftwxous, morfwmenous, amorfwtous, eleftherous, fulakismenous, thriskous, athriskous- OLOUS anaixeretws. Oloi eimaste gnwsi, ola einai gnwsi, afta pou vlepoume, afta pou den vlepoume (px den vlepoume me gumno mati ta aiwroumena swmatidia tis ulis all afta uparxoun, einai gnwsi)afta pou akoume, afta pou den akoume OLA. OLA EINAI GNWSH.

Elfi

- ΘΕΑΣΗ ΔΙΠΛΩΝ ΑΡΙΘΜΩΝ ΚΑΤ' ΕΠΑΝΑΛΗΨΗ (πχ. 11:11, 22:22, 11:33....) - .-= ΤΟ ΠΑΡΑΞΕΝΟ =-.04/02/2005, 01:07:07

AzWel egrapses oti to thema einai na apofevgoume tous pseftes kai tous anoitous. Me poia kritiria diaxwrizeis aftes tis 2 katigories???

Poioi einai oi pseftes???
Poioi einai oi anoitoi???

Poios apofasizei se poia katigoria anikoi kapoios allos??

Telos pantwn den exei amesi sxesi me to thema mas aftos o provlimatismos alla kalo einai na apofevgoume ta genikefseis.

Apo tin alli mou arese i paromoiwsi tis gnwsis me pazl kathoti eimai fanatiki pazlou (ftiaxnw polla puzzles) alla kai gia tous exis logous

1. Sta puzzle xreiazetai upomoni opws kai sti gnwsi
2. Merikes fores prepei na eisai apoluta monos gia na ftiaxeis to puzzle opws kai sti gnwsi
3. Kathe kommati einai xexwristo, monadiko, diaforetiko opws kai sti gnwsi
4. Afto to diaforetiko einai omws kai meros tou olou opws sumvainei kai sti gnwsi
5. Prepei na afiewreis xrono gia na teleiwseis to pazl opws kai sti gnwsi
6. Merikes fores ta paratas sti mesi opws kai sti gnwsi
7. Merikes fores vazeis ta kommatia se lathos thesi opws kai sti gnwsi
8. Merikes fores leipoun kommatia opws kai sti gnwsi
9. Merikes fores xaneis kommatia opws kai sti gnwsi
10. Otan to pazl teleiwsei dipsas na ftiaxeis to epomeno opws kai sti gnwsi
11. Allote to puzzle exei wraia eikona allote asximi opws kai sti gnwsi
12. Allote to puzzle einai mirko kai allote megalo opws kai i gnwsi
13. Kamia fora exeis to puzzle alla variesai na to xekiniseis opws kai tin diadikasia apoktisis tis gnwsis

Ax GNWSI ti mas kaneis....trexw sto puzzlaki mou

Efxaristw paidia pou me diavasete kai sugnwmi an xefuga ligo apo to thema alla tha epanelthw

Elfi

- ΘΕΑΣΗ ΔΙΠΛΩΝ ΑΡΙΘΜΩΝ ΚΑΤ' ΕΠΑΝΑΛΗΨΗ (πχ. 11:11, 22:22, 11:33....) - .-= ΤΟ ΠΑΡΑΞΕΝΟ =-.03/02/2005, 00:16:42

Oloi mporoume na dwsoume diaforetikous orismous gia ti gnwsi, i gnwsi einai polla mazi kai i aftognwsia gnwsi einai Min kolame se afto. To thema einai i poiotiki tis ufansi, to periexomeno tis, o skopos tis, se ti se voithaei, se ti se kanei kalutero. Poios tin parexei kai poios ti dexetai.

Pws tin afomoiwneis, pws tin aporripteis. Polla para polla mporei na peis kaneis gia ti gnwsi... Toso pou xanomaste se lektikous lavurintous. Yparxei gnwsi texniki, pnevmatiki, psuxiki, swmatiki, kai tosa alla ...

Plirwneis den plirwneis i gnwsi tha apokaluptetai mprosta sou. Eitai me ti morfi viwmatos, eite me ti morfi empeirias, eite me ti morfi gourou, eite me ti morfi daskalou klp To themai einai sto taxidi tis zwis na min sterevei i dipsa sou gia ti gnwsi....akoma kai an afti se katastrepsei. H gnwsi einai taxidi me agnwsto proorismo Afetheite stin omorfia tou taxidiou kai akouste tin kardia sas (e kai to mualo sas kamia fora)kai an den vreite ton proorismo den xathike kai o kosmos. Koitaxte na zisete omorfa sto taxidi

Elfi

- Απ' το ΙΡΑΚ στο ΙΡΑΝ...Δε θ' αφήσει τιποτα όρθιο ο νέος Χιτλερ! - ΝΕΑ - Μέσα από το Διεθνές Internet30/01/2005, 22:53:40

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Εμείς σε ποιο κεφάλαιο θα παίξουμε δεν μπορώ να φανταστώ στην επερχόμενη φεουδαρχία των επομένων ετών???

Kala ta les free rider. Mono pou tha parafrasw ligo ton parapanw sullogismo sou: To thema einai poio rolo tha paixoume kai akoma xeirotera, an tha paixoume kapoio rolo...polu fovamai pws oxi giati opws kai na to kanoume simasia den exei to megethos tou kefalaiou i tis skinis alla o rolos pou tha erminefsei kaneis

Idwmen!!

Elfi

- Απ' το ΙΡΑΚ στο ΙΡΑΝ...Δε θ' αφήσει τιποτα όρθιο ο νέος Χιτλερ! - ΝΕΑ - Μέσα από το Διεθνές Internet30/01/2005, 15:51:55

Simera stin kathimerini ena polu endiaferon arthro tou kathigiti Xristou Giannara sxetiko me to thema mas

http://www.kathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_columns_139227_30/01/2005_132169

Elfi