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quote:Vasika h alh8eia einai pws leei oti vriskete sta aristera mas panta:P Ayth h didaskalia eixe kapoia vash, alla to 8ema as mhn to analusoyme sto se poia katey8ynsh vriskete:) Thn kalhterh analush ayths ths katastashs thn exw dei se ena vivlio tou 1806 "H 8yra Ths Metaneias" Opoy e3hgei analutikotera ayto poy elege o Castaneda (Se praktiko epipedo) oti o 8anatos mas einai o kalhteros mas sumvoulos, ka8e stigmh mporei na einai h teleutaia mas stigmh. O kalhteros mas filos einai o 8anatos, giati otan den 3eroume ti na kanoyme mporoume na ton "symvouleftoume". Kapoios mporei na pei oti "ok, an einai na pe8anw den kanw tipote mexri na pe8anw". To 8ema einai oti an ma8eis oti 8a pe8aneis se ligo kairo kai ta parathseis ola apo twra, einai san na ta exeis parathsei edw kai poly kairo, prepei kai thn teleutaia sou stigmh na dras opws 8a drouses panta. Me thn kardia, panta xaroymenos kai me 8arros!
Ο Κάρλος Καστανέντα προτείνει να σκεφτόμαστε ότι ο θάνατός μας συνεχώς βρίσκεται λίγο πίσω από τη δεξιά ωμοπλάτη μας.
An kai den exw asxolh8ei me Dion Fortune, ypo8etw oti kati paromoio leei:) Gia ayto ton "allo" mas eayto, mas milaei kai o Castaneda kai genikotera osoi anaferontai se didaskalies Toltekwn! Mono poy sthn pragmatikotita den erxete kai mas voh8aei otan exoyme provlimata, alla an apokthsoyme mia pragmatikh eswterikh siwph kai stamatisoyme ka8e nohtikh leitourgia kai prospa8hsoyme na afoygkrastoyme, tote mporoyme na exoyme epikoinwnia mazi toy h aploustera na mas dwsei lyseis gia ola ta provlimata mas:)
An kai den exw asxolh8ei me Dion Fortune, ypo8etw oti kati paromoio leei:) Gia ayto ton "allo" mas eayto, mas milaei kai o Castaneda kai genikotera osoi anaferontai se didaskalies Toltekwn! Mono poy sthn pragmatikotita den erxete kai mas voh8aei otan exoyme provlimata, alla an apokthsoyme mia pragmatikh eswterikh siwph kai stamatisoyme ka8e nohtikh leitourgia kai prospa8hsoyme na afoygkrastoyme, tote mporoyme na exoyme epikoinwnia mazi toy h aploustera na mas dwsei lyseis gia ola ta provlimata mas:)
Dystixws etsi opws ta'xw settarei den mporw na grafw sta Ellhnika (den eimai kai apo toys kalhterous xrhstes H/Y). O monos tropos einai na kanw copy/paste ka8e gramma 3exwrista opoy akoma 8a egrafa tis prwtes 2 seires toy post 
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Δηλαδή συγγνώμη, εκεί πας για να "αγωνιστείς"; Κάτι σαν "Πανελλήνιος Σύλλογος" είναι δηλαδή;
Kapoios poy anhkei se ena filosofiko systhma, den einai dedomeno oti 8a agwnistei gia na e3elhx8ei eite ayto to systhma legete Tektonismos, eite Xristiannismos klp? (milontas panta gia tous an8rwpous opoioi akolou8oun kapoio systhma exontas isxuroys stoxous)
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Οι μεν σου είπαν απ' τη μία ότι δεν έχουν καλό φιλοσοφικό επίπεδο και απ' την άλλη μας εγγυάσαι ότι οι δεν, είναι μια χαρά, είναι απλοί και αγωνίζονται για την πνευματική τους ανάπτυξη και δεν είναι οικονομικό το θέμα;
Vasika nai 
! Ti oikonomiko 8ema na yparxei meta3y koinwn an8rwpwn opoy epaggelontai hlektrologso, ta3itzhs, ma8hmatikos, klp, opoy h monadikh oikonomikh ypoxrewsh poy exoyn einai ena poso twn 15E twn mhna? Ektos kai an enoouses tpt allo kai den katalava swsta!
8a analusw mia vasikh leptomeria oson afora mia karta mono, ton kremasmeno. Mia vasikh leptomeria tou kremasmenoy einai pws to de3i podi enw arxika einai parallhla me to aristero, h kleidwsh tou gonatou strefete 90 moires pros to aristero kai to temnei. Symfwna kapoies 8ewries, otan yparxei ayth h stash toy swmatos arxizei kai paragete h gkountalini.
Katalaves ti egrapsa, apla opws proeipa ayto einai h prwsopikh moy gnwmh. Ayto to vasizw dioti to O.T.O. arxika dhmiourgh8hke apo ekptwta melh enos tagmatos (adelfikou twn rodostaurwn)! Opws kai o Crowley ekptwtos enos omoiou tagmatos, phge kai parala3e stoixeia opoia yphrxan aiwnes prin vazontas kai vgazontas pragmata poy aytos 8ewrouse pws htan swsta!
Oson afora gia ta taro eipes to e3hs:
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κυκλοφόρησαν στην τωρινή original μορφή τους από τους Ιππότες του Ναού, όταν διαλύθηκε το τάγμα, με σκοπό την διάδοση των μυστικών τους.
Opws proeipes kai'sy Zadok, ta taro exoun ontos kapoio anwtero skopo apo ton kompogianitismo poy vlepoume twra (typoy pare 090 kai ma8e an se goustarei h gomena). Ta tarw exoun na mas dida3oun poly perissotera ap'oti nomizei olos o kosmos. O tropos opoy o Crowley e3hgei ta taro, den exei kammia sxesh me ta va8eia tous kai pragmatika nohmata kai ta xrhsimopoiei mono gia prolhpseis katastasewn. Sto vivlio tou 8w8 grafei pws na "rixneis" tarw, kai ta prwta stadia einai mia epiklish ston aiwass (ELEOS!) kai meta dhmiourgeis 4 sthles (IHVH) opoy h prwth exei sxesh me epixeirhseis, h deyterh me erwtes kai istories, h 3h me gamo kai h 4h me xrhmata kai ulika pragmata. Ayto den einai kataxrhsh kai vevylwsh arxaiwn mystikwn?
Edited by - Akenaton on 05/01/2004 03:52:19
Istorika o Crowley eixe ftasei se ypsilo va8mo toy tagmatos Memphis/Misrahim apo'kei phre podi. Meta phge Golden Dawn, kai apo'kei phre podi. Eixe apokthsei kapoies gnwseis opoies stekoun me vash polla filosofika systimata. Enas apo toys vasikoteros sympantikoys nomoys (isxuei ypo proupo8eseis fysika) einai opws elege kai o Crowley "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"(genikotera, ayto poy 8a epi8umiseis 8a ginei kommati tou nomoy). Dystixws o idios mporei na to sunhdhtopoihse alla prospa8hse na leitourgisei me vash kapoies "maures" (an mporoume na xrhsimopoihsoume ayto ton oro) teletourgies, oi opoies ton odhghsan sthn trella. Se polla akomh 8emata leitourgouse enantia twn gnwsewn toy. To xeirotero poy ekane (Prosopikh moy apopsh) htan pws mplextike sto O.T.O. (opoio htan eidh ekptwto tagma) kai ekane polles allages. Vasika stoixeia tou tagmatos Ordo Templi Orientis exoun akoma ws iera tous keimena, keimena poy egrapse o crowley enw ypoti8ete eixe mpei mesa tou o "Aiwass". To tagma arxise na asxoleite me pragmata ta opoia prwsopika 8a apokalousa kompogianitika (den mporw na 8ewrisw sovaro ena tagma opoio asxoleite me taro). Akoma kai sto "Book Of Thoth" (vivlio gia Taro) perigrafh to vasiko vhma gia na ri3eis taro einai mia mikrh epiklisoula ston Aiwass..
To timhma poy exoun oi va8moi Reiki exei kapoion skopo kai eytixws poy yparxei! Dystixws gia'sas poy lete oti "oloi sunwmotoyn kai ola ginontai gia ta fragka etc etc" apla skefteste opws exete ma8ei na skefteste:). Yphrxe periptwsh poy enas Master Reiki eixe xamiles times, kai epikoinwnoyn mazi tou apo thn Reiki Alliance kai tou lene pws eite 8a exei ths kanonikes times poy exoun te8ei eite 8a diagrafei! Ta antitima kruvoun apo pisw ypoxrewseis, opoios leei oti den a3izei tosa lefta enas va8mos tote eytixws poy yparxei ayto to antitimo kai den 8a ton parei ayto to atomo ton va8mo, giati sigoura 8a ton xrhsimopoihsei san ena "paixnidi" poy toy to ekanan dwro (wow, energia kai den summazevete, psss). To Reiki san sunolo den exei telos, den exei va8os wste na peis meta apo kapoion kairo "twra ema8a to reiki".
Ps: H "timologish" den egine apo tous shmerinous Daskaloys, alla apo prohgoumenes genies, prin lete ahdies diavazete kai ligo pws eginan ta pragmata, oxi "To Reiki egine tis modas kai mas klevete", apo ton Hayashi (nomizw pws k apo ton Usui 3ekinise ki'ollas) pws 8a einai ta antitima twn va8mwn (o 1os va8mos kostizei oso einai o mis8os 1½ vdomadas, o 2os me ton mis8o 1½ mina kai o 3os me ton mis8o 1½ xronou)
Edited by - Akenaton on 04/01/2004 04:29:11
Edited by - Akenaton on 04/01/2004 04:32:22
Morfea: Prwth fora akouw gia to Iwxroun Pyr kai fenetai endiaferon, 8a h8ela an mporeis na moy dwseis kapoies plhrofories panw se ayto.
Kata 2on, se poia geneologia reiki eisai, kai an pisteveis pws na pareis oloklhrotika ton 3o va8mo (na gineis master dld) exei ypsulo timhma (poy ontos exei), giati den pairneis apla to 1o kommati tou 3ou va8moy (thn muhsh sto sumvolo tou Master) na klhseis ton muhtiko soy kyklo?
3on, me to Iwxroyn Pyr, yparxei dinatotita anasugrotishs tou eautou sou sundeontas se me to parel8on opws me to Reiki?
Kata 2on, se poia geneologia reiki eisai, kai an pisteveis pws na pareis oloklhrotika ton 3o va8mo (na gineis master dld) exei ypsulo timhma (poy ontos exei), giati den pairneis apla to 1o kommati tou 3ou va8moy (thn muhsh sto sumvolo tou Master) na klhseis ton muhtiko soy kyklo?
3on, me to Iwxroyn Pyr, yparxei dinatotita anasugrotishs tou eautou sou sundeontas se me to parel8on opws me to Reiki?
Isws to nohma ths zwhs na einai h empeiria, na zhsoyme kai na apokthsoyme fws! Isws emeis na epilegoyme pote 8a gennh8oyme kai oxi mono pote, alla poy kai pws! Opws exw dei gyro moy oloi oi an8rwpoi mia eykairia gia thn pneymatikh toys anaptu3h, na e3elix8oyn ws kai na ginoyn kati allo, kati diaforetiko. To monadiko provlima einai pws apeiroelaxistoi einai aytoi poy pragmatika arpazoyn mia tetoia eykairia! As apeleu8ero8oyme apo ta desma tis diamwrfwshs mas kai as akolou8hsoyme oloi ton dromo tis eleu8erias me odhgo thn siwph mas!
Ayto ton kairo tyxainei na kanw kati seminaria panw sto 8ema, opoy mporeis na katevazeis tis egkefalikes syxnothtes, kai me thn swsth xrhsh kai programmatismo mporeis na katafereis apistefta pragmata, apo to na 8ymasai ta panta enw vriskese se mia katastash, na apoktas ton elengxo twn oneirwn soy (dioti mporeis na ftaseis stis syxnothtes opoies oneireyese). Apo tis gnwseis moy panw sto 8ema kai oso to exw psa3ei ayto ton kairo, h syxnothta Delta einai syxnothta opoy ekei den exeis oneira, mia poly va8ia xalarwsh opoia den mporei na elenx8ei (ektos kai an eisai kanenas guru master kai to paleueis gia 50 xronia
). Gia na ginei o syntonismos yparxei parallhla enas hxos opoios se katevazei, kai me ayto ton tropo programmatizese wste na mporeis na ftaseis se ayto to shmeio opote 8es monos soy me mia mikrh diadikasia! Mporeis na katafereis paaara polla pragmata me ayto ton tropo kai an pote exete eykairia na parakolou8hsete kapoio tetoio seminario, h symvoylh moy einai na to kanete! einai kati opoio 8a sas akolou8hsei kata thn diarkeia oloklhrhs ths zwhs sas dinontas poly megala ofelh!
). Gia na ginei o syntonismos yparxei parallhla enas hxos opoios se katevazei, kai me ayto ton tropo programmatizese wste na mporeis na ftaseis se ayto to shmeio opote 8es monos soy me mia mikrh diadikasia! Mporeis na katafereis paaara polla pragmata me ayto ton tropo kai an pote exete eykairia na parakolou8hsete kapoio tetoio seminario, h symvoylh moy einai na to kanete! einai kati opoio 8a sas akolou8hsei kata thn diarkeia oloklhrhs ths zwhs sas dinontas poly megala ofelh! Isws to nohma ths zwhs na einai h empeiria, na zhsoyme kai na apokthsoyme fws! Isws emeis na epilegoyme pote 8a gennh8oyme kai oxi mono pote, alla poy kai pws! Opws exw dei gyro moy oloi oi an8rwpoi mia eykairia gia thn pneymatikh toys anaptu3h, na e3elix8oyn ws kai na ginoyn kati allo, kati diaforetiko. To monadiko provlima einai pws apeiroelaxistoi einai aytoi poy pragmatika arpazoyn mia tetoia eykairia! As apeleu8ero8oyme apo ta desma tis diamwrfwshs mas kai as akolou8hsoyme oloi ton dromo tis eleu8erias me odhgo thn siwph mas!
To timhma poy exoun oi va8moi Reiki exei kapoion skopo kai eytixws poy yparxei! Dystixws gia'sas poy lete oti "oloi sunwmotoyn kai ola ginontai gia ta fragka etc etc" apla skefteste opws exete ma8ei na skefteste:). Yphrxe periptwsh poy enas Master Reiki eixe xamiles times, kai epikoinwnoyn mazi tou apo thn Reiki Alliance kai tou lene pws eite 8a exei ths kanonikes times poy exoun te8ei eite 8a diagrafei! Ta antitima kruvoun apo pisw ypoxrewseis, opoios leei oti den a3izei tosa lefta enas va8mos tote eytixws poy yparxei ayto to antitimo kai den 8a ton parei ayto to atomo ton va8mo, giati sigoura 8a ton xrhsimopoihsei san ena "paixnidi" poy toy to ekanan dwro (wow, energia kai den summazevete, psss). To Reiki san sunolo den exei telos, den exei va8os wste na peis meta apo kapoion kairo "twra ema8a to reiki".
Ps: H "timologish" den egine apo tous shmerinous Daskaloys, alla apo prohgoumenes genies, prin lete ahdies diavazete kai ligo pws eginan ta pragmata, oxi "To Reiki egine tis modas kai mas klevete", apo ton Hayashi (nomizw pws k apo ton Usui 3ekinise ki'ollas) pws 8a einai ta antitima twn va8mwn (o 1os va8mos kostizei oso einai o mis8os 1½ vdomadas, o 2os me ton mis8o 1½ mina kai o 3os me ton mis8o 1½ xronou)
Edited by - Akenaton on 04/01/2004 04:29:11
Edited by - Akenaton on 04/01/2004 04:32:22
Morfea: Prwth fora akouw gia to Iwxroun Pyr kai fenetai endiaferon, 8a h8ela an mporeis na moy dwseis kapoies plhrofories panw se ayto.
Kata 2on, se poia geneologia reiki eisai, kai an pisteveis pws na pareis oloklhrotika ton 3o va8mo (na gineis master dld) exei ypsulo timhma (poy ontos exei), giati den pairneis apla to 1o kommati tou 3ou va8moy (thn muhsh sto sumvolo tou Master) na klhseis ton muhtiko soy kyklo?
3on, me to Iwxroyn Pyr, yparxei dinatotita anasugrotishs tou eautou sou sundeontas se me to parel8on opws me to Reiki?
Kata 2on, se poia geneologia reiki eisai, kai an pisteveis pws na pareis oloklhrotika ton 3o va8mo (na gineis master dld) exei ypsulo timhma (poy ontos exei), giati den pairneis apla to 1o kommati tou 3ou va8moy (thn muhsh sto sumvolo tou Master) na klhseis ton muhtiko soy kyklo?
3on, me to Iwxroyn Pyr, yparxei dinatotita anasugrotishs tou eautou sou sundeontas se me to parel8on opws me to Reiki?
Kalhmera:)
Re paides, giati na mpenete ston kopo na prospa8eite na e3hghsete ti einai to reiki se sxesh me ayta poy exete akousei apo tritous? Anyway, eida polla posts ta opoia den mou aresan kai to na grapsw kapoia apanthsh edw pistevw pws den exei nohma, ayto poy 8elw na pw einai pws eimai diate8hmenos na voh8hsw opoiondipote 8elei plhrofories prv omws:)
Re paides, giati na mpenete ston kopo na prospa8eite na e3hghsete ti einai to reiki se sxesh me ayta poy exete akousei apo tritous? Anyway, eida polla posts ta opoia den mou aresan kai to na grapsw kapoia apanthsh edw pistevw pws den exei nohma, ayto poy 8elw na pw einai pws eimai diate8hmenos na voh8hsw opoiondipote 8elei plhrofories prv omws:)
Analfi: kai'gw apo 8essalonikh eimai, opote an endiaferese mporw na se ferw se epikoinwnia me ton daskalo moy:)
Edited by - Akenaton on 04/01/2004 03:49:48
Edited by - Akenaton on 04/01/2004 03:51:06
8a htan dynaton na mas perigrapseis tin diadikasia kai to pws pragmatopoihte aytos o dialogismos?
8a analusw mia vasikh leptomeria oson afora mia karta mono, ton kremasmeno. Mia vasikh leptomeria tou kremasmenoy einai pws to de3i podi enw arxika einai parallhla me to aristero, h kleidwsh tou gonatou strefete 90 moires pros to aristero kai to temnei. Symfwna kapoies 8ewries, otan yparxei ayth h stash toy swmatos arxizei kai paragete h gkountalini.
An kai den exw asxolh8ei me Dion Fortune, ypo8etw oti kati paromoio leei:) Gia ayto ton "allo" mas eayto, mas milaei kai o Castaneda kai genikotera osoi anaferontai se didaskalies Toltekwn! Mono poy sthn pragmatikotita den erxete kai mas voh8aei otan exoyme provlimata, alla an apokthsoyme mia pragmatikh eswterikh siwph kai stamatisoyme ka8e nohtikh leitourgia kai prospa8hsoyme na afoygkrastoyme, tote mporoyme na exoyme epikoinwnia mazi toy h aploustera na mas dwsei lyseis gia ola ta provlimata mas:)
Isws to nohma ths zwhs na einai h empeiria, na zhsoyme kai na apokthsoyme fws! Isws emeis na epilegoyme pote 8a gennh8oyme kai oxi mono pote, alla poy kai pws! Opws exw dei gyro moy oloi oi an8rwpoi mia eykairia gia thn pneymatikh toys anaptu3h, na e3elix8oyn ws kai na ginoyn kati allo, kati diaforetiko. To monadiko provlima einai pws apeiroelaxistoi einai aytoi poy pragmatika arpazoyn mia tetoia eykairia! As apeleu8ero8oyme apo ta desma tis diamwrfwshs mas kai as akolou8hsoyme oloi ton dromo tis eleu8erias me odhgo thn siwph mas!
To timhma poy exoun oi va8moi Reiki exei kapoion skopo kai eytixws poy yparxei! Dystixws gia'sas poy lete oti "oloi sunwmotoyn kai ola ginontai gia ta fragka etc etc" apla skefteste opws exete ma8ei na skefteste:). Yphrxe periptwsh poy enas Master Reiki eixe xamiles times, kai epikoinwnoyn mazi tou apo thn Reiki Alliance kai tou lene pws eite 8a exei ths kanonikes times poy exoun te8ei eite 8a diagrafei! Ta antitima kruvoun apo pisw ypoxrewseis, opoios leei oti den a3izei tosa lefta enas va8mos tote eytixws poy yparxei ayto to antitimo kai den 8a ton parei ayto to atomo ton va8mo, giati sigoura 8a ton xrhsimopoihsei san ena "paixnidi" poy toy to ekanan dwro (wow, energia kai den summazevete, psss). To Reiki san sunolo den exei telos, den exei va8os wste na peis meta apo kapoion kairo "twra ema8a to reiki".
Ps: H "timologish" den egine apo tous shmerinous Daskaloys, alla apo prohgoumenes genies, prin lete ahdies diavazete kai ligo pws eginan ta pragmata, oxi "To Reiki egine tis modas kai mas klevete", apo ton Hayashi (nomizw pws k apo ton Usui 3ekinise ki'ollas) pws 8a einai ta antitima twn va8mwn (o 1os va8mos kostizei oso einai o mis8os 1½ vdomadas, o 2os me ton mis8o 1½ mina kai o 3os me ton mis8o 1½ xronou)
Edited by - Akenaton on 04/01/2004 04:29:11
Edited by - Akenaton on 04/01/2004 04:32:22