mparmpa_giwrgis

as teleiwsei edw to thema twn grammatoseirwn kai as epistrepsoume sto thema mas sas parakalw!

sygnwmi pou den mporw na xalasw xrimata na agorasw allo pliktrologio!

tin tropi pou pire i syzitisi
as tin xairontai osoi prospathisan na stisoun ena katigoritirio
stirizomenoi se politika ypovathra anthrwpwn.

oso gia ti systatiki epistoli
ektos tou oti otan edwthi o katigoroumenos den eixe sxesi me narkwtika,
apo pote apotelei poiniko adikima????

gi ayta ta tromera adikimata loipon prepei na kleisei i xrysopigi?
i mipws-ksanakanw tin erwtisi- epeidi kapoia meli tis exoun sygekrimeno politiko ypovathro???

kai ap oti eida egw egine mia "diki" stis politikes pepoithiseis kai to politiko ypovathro twn melwn tis.

o filos wendigo kai o filos AVATARGR milisan gia to parelthon pou mas deixnei kapoia pragmata kai mporei na mas odigisei se symperasmata.

kai rwtaw symperasmata epi poiou thematos?

gia poia sygekrimeni praxi katigoreitai i xrysopigi pou feretai na talanizei ti xwra????

gia na kseroume gia ti milame epitelous...

o nikos kwstantopoulos pou stin vouli zitise na kleisei i xrysopigi(endeiktiki skepsi dimokrati tha elega)

pera apo aoristologies den parethese kapoio sygekrimeno stoixeio
wste na eksetastei apo tis armodies dikastikes arxes...

oi filoi se ayto to forum
mporoun na milisoun gia sygekrimena adikimata???

giati eksakolouthw na pisteyw
oti edw vallontai kapoioi anthrwpoi epeidi polemisan eite metaforika eite kyriolektika gia ta idewdi tous.idewdi pou den aresoun se dimokrates thaymastes tou tsaousetskou(gia na min pw gia allous) as poume...
opws melh tou kommatos tou nikou kwstantopoulou...

i prwin stalinikous,prwin maoistes idiotites pou prodidoun VATHYTATA DIMOKRATIKOYS ANTHRWPOUS.....

thelete na milisoume loipon gia sygekrimena adikimata
i gia to politiko parelthon pollwn???

giati ap oti vlepw edw to provlima mas einai i eptaetia kai o astyyfylakas tou emfyliou
kai oxi as poume o x thaymastis tou stalin pou prospathise kapote na egathidrysei kai aytos kathestws stin ellada!

ara ayto mallon apokleiei to na omilouse o isokratis gia ksenous ...

filika ennoeitai panta

gia to thema giosaki kai neonaki egw milisa gia ta proswpa pou twra zitoun paraitisi tou arxiepiskopou.aytoi oi ypermaxoi tis ithikis loipon,TA IDIA PROSWPA DHLADH,zitousan tote paraitisi simiti?
logiko einai i ayriani kai o antipoliteuomenos typos na askisoun kritiki sto simiti.
paraitisi omws apo osous simera skizoun ta rouxa tous apo tin aganaktisi enantion tou arxiepiskopou eixe zitisei kaneis?
o kakaounakis ? o makis? o tsimas? o spuros karatzaferis?
h einai yper tis ithikis loipon kai eprepe kai tote na praxoun oti pratoun twra i aplws einai stratiwtakia tou sustimatos!
kai fysika apefyges epimelws na asxolitheis me to oti o makis kai o kakaounakis summaxisan enantion tou arxiepiskopou
otan prin ena xrono elege o enas ton allon roufiano!
kai se ksanarwtaw ayti i summaxia pws sou fainetai esena?
athwa i tuxaia?
gia to kousouri oi kanones tis ekklisias lene oti einai amartia.
kai o arxiepiskopos gia na einai arxiepiskopos prepei na akolouthei tous kanones.
ta peri megalou kommatiou ktl den vlepw ti nohma exoun file mou!

sou lew meta oti kapoioi gia to thema giosaki zitousan paraitisi tou arxiepiskopou.
kai oi idioi den zitousan paraitisi tou simiti px gia to thema neonaki px(pou einai to mikrotero kako apo ola osa ekane o simitis).
pws sou fainetai i stasi tous?
ayto sou zitisa na sxoliaseis file mou.kai oxi na mou peis gia politiko logo.
sou zitisa na sxoliaseis giati sti mia periptwsi aganaktoun gia to perivallon kapoiou kai zitoun tin paraitisi tou kai stin alli kanoun oti den trexei tipota!
mporeis na mou to sxoliaseis ayto?
oso gia tous dimosiografous
einai poly asteio na vlepeis ton kakaounaki na leei MPRAVO sto maki
otan oi dyo tous ena xrono prin
allilokatigorountan sta parathyra KAI ELEGE O ENAS TON ALLO ROUFIANO!
kai pote symmaxisan ta iera ayta terata tis dimosiografias?
OTAN "EPREPE" NA XTYPITHEI O XRISTODOULOS!
einai tyxaio pou twra thymithikan tin ektimisi pou trefei o enas gia ton allo?
ayto pws sou fainetai esena? TYXAIO H TOSO ATHWO?
kai na sou ypenthymisw
oti milwntas gia ton arxiepiskopo ena dyo posts parapanw
esy milises gia laikismo kai gia psifothiria.IDOU :

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mparmpa giwrgis:
«epeidi exei tin antitheti apopsi,tin ekfrazei kai aggizei ton kosmo!
me liga logia milaei patriwtika!»

Συμφωνώ ότι έτσι «βγαίνει» προς τα έξω. Όμως είναι η μισή αλήθεια.

Πρόκειται για λαϊκισμό και ψηφοθηρία, και όχι για κάποια σοβαρή τομή. Τι έχει τάχα να χάσει ο Χριστόδουλος? Ψήφους ή επιπτώσεις από ΕΕ ή Αμερική? Μήπως πρόκειται να θέσει τον εαυτό του στη κρίση του λαού μετά από 4 χρόνια?

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contro la societa multiculturale...tradizione...distinzione...

se rwtaw kai an thes apantise mou : tin periodo tis ekklsiiastikis krisis oi fwnes yper tou arxiepiskopou eixan tin idia provoli me aytes kata tou arxiepiskopou?
poioi itan aytoi pou monopolisan ta tileoptika parathyra? den itan oi stratoulides oi lianides kai oi kounalakides?
ginontai ekpompes gia ta symvanta stin ekklisia xwris na proskalountai ekproswpoi tis ekklisias!
o xatzinikolaou tolmise na parei synenteyksi apo ton arxiepiskopo(mia synenteyksi pou voithise ton arxiepiskopo na akoustei)
kai apo tin epomeni mera arxise na loidwreitai apo symparousiastes tileoptikou deltiou eidisewn allou stathmou(kakaounakis,liarelis-mega).
an eixes parakolouthisei ligo to deltio eidisewn tou mega ekeines tis imeres tha katalabaineis ti ennow....
loidorithike loipon o xatzinikolaou(mexri kai stimeno ton eipan) gia synenteyksi apo ton arxiepiskopo
kai o zouglas egine irwas epeidi edine fwni ston vavyli!!!!!
yparxei safis diafora de nomizeis????

mou les oti i aristera exei milisei gia ta ethnika themata.
de diafwnw exei milisei.
px o synaspismos den eixe provlima me to onoma "makedonia".
to pasok pou einai kentroaristera eipe NAI sto sxedio anan.
o syn an thymamai kala eipe oxi.alla gia logous pou eixan na kanoun me tin leitourgikotita tou kratous.den ton enoiaze dld ton syn oti tha paraxwrithei monimws ELLINIKO edafos stous tourkous kai oti tha kserizwthei kai me ypografi o ellinismos apo ta edafi tou...ton enoiazan alla pragmata...
o arxiepiskopos leei gia voreio ipeiro kai o syn gia notio alvania...
fysika kai exei parei thesi i aristera
kai gi ayto orismenoi kykloi tis polemoun ton arxiepiskopo.
epeidi exei tin antitheti apopsi,tin ekfrazei kai aggizei ton kosmo!
me liga logia milaei patriwtika!

oso gia to simiti kai tous pasokous kai tous loipous aristerous
apla tha pw oti den ntrapikan na sikwthoun mprosta se xountiko mesa sti vouli.tote ksexasan poso kaki itan i xounta?
twra tous peirakse o arxiepiskopos!

ps: rikse mia matia se parakalw ston io tis simerinis eleytherotypias.
to programma oikonomikis enisxysis stis XRISTIANIKES polyteknes oikogeneies tis thrakis,apo tin elliniki ekklisia to parousiazei ws ratsistiko...
ayto gia na doume ti epidiwkoun oi polemioi tou arxiepiskopou
kai ti kanei o idios o arxiepiskopos gia ti xwra mas....

nomizw file mou oti i frasi ayti apodykneiei peritrana kai oti xtypietai kai apo poious xtypietai o arxiepiskopos.kai fysika edw den ennow ton synaspismo...

mou les oti den ksypnise tipota o arxiepiskopos kai oti den eipe alitheies.
egw kserw oti epi imerwn tou oi neoi eidan me megalytero endiaferon tin ekklisia.
milise gia ethnika themata opws to thema tou sxediou anan.opws to thema tis makedonias.themata pou to politiko katestimeno ypovathmize i pigaine na ta perasei sta moulwxta!
milise gia agapi stin patrida...
kai eidika aytes tis meres vlepoume ti kanei to politiko katestimeno kai poso simantiko einai gia tous ellines na agapane tin patrida tous kai ara na antidroun.
kai pws aytoi pou kathyvrizoun ton arxiepiskopo kai den deixnoun ton apaitoumeno sevasmo(opws o kyrios simitis kai oi syn aytw pou otan mpike sti vouli nomizan oti vriskontai se kafeneio kai mpike mesa o filos tous)
exoun lerwmeni ti fwlia tous me mia symfwnia pou ypegrapsan to 97 kai sou tin trivei twra sti fatsa i agkyra.mia symfwnia pou milouse gia zwtika symferonta tis tourkias sto aigaio.tin symfwnia tis madritis ennow!
oso gia tis taytotites
as mas poun osoi eferan to thema aifnidiastika sti vouli ena mina meta tis ekloges kai den to aneferan sto proeklogiko tous programma giati to ekanan.
kai einai toso ypokrites pou me tin praxi tous ayti "omologousan" oti epi 20 xronia o pasokikos kratikos mixanismos ferotan ratsistika se osous to thriskeyma stis taytotites den itan XO.
kai se rwtaw opws rwtaw kai aytous : itan i ellada ratsistiko kratos?
oxi!
tote giati ayti i premoura gia tis taytotites?ti tha allaze pragmatika?tipota dystyxws...

oso gia ton makario file mou
tha prepei na ksereis
oti oi idioi pou simera xtypane ton xristodoulo
ton makario ton fwnazoun ethnarxi!
kai kanoun oti den vlepoun ton ypopto rolo tou!
alla tote vlepeis den tous peiraze i anameixi ekklisias stin politiki!

se eyxaristw kale mou file gia to post!
itan ena post apokalypsi...athela sou me voithises!

telika stin ellada to provlima einai arxiepiskopos
kai dikio exoun osoi ypegrapsan tin symfwnia tis madritis
osoi poulisan ton otsalan
osoi poulisan ta imia
osoi eipan NAI sto sxedio anan gia na epireasoun tin apofasi twn aderfwn mas kypriwn.
an aytoi einai oi antipaloi
ennoeitai oti egw eimai me ton arxiepiskopo!

alla as ta paroume ta pragmata apo tin arxi :

xtypietai o arxiepiskopos me mona apodeiktika stoixeia tin "martyria" tou apatewna vavili kai tin martyria tou eirinaiou.
o arxiepiskopos diapseydei kai tous dyo.
vavulis kai eirinaios ypirksan synergates!kai katigorountai gia sygekrimena adikimata poinika kai ithika(o deyteros)!
stoixeia pou na emplekoun ton arxiepiskopo se kati poinika aki ithika kolasimo DEN YPARXOYN!

giati xtypietai o arxiepiskopos?
isws giati katafere na ksypnisei ton koimwmeno giganta
pou legetai ekklisia.kai den anaferomai stous ierarxes alla sto 95% twn ellinwn(eksairoumenwn mousoulmanw kai ligwn anarxokoumounistwn diladi).
epi xristodoulou o kosmos gyrise stin ekklisia.
epi xristodoulou akoustikan alitheies gia ta ethnika themata
gia tous polemous se irak yougoslavia
epi xristodoulou ypirxe antidrasi stin koroidia twn taytotitwn.oxi toso epeidi to kratos den eixe dikaiwma alla epeidi den to ethese proeklogika ws thema to sygekrimeno koma kai to efere stin vouli ena mina meta!
epi xristodoulou i ekklisia pire thesi enantia sto sxedio anan!

einai fanero oti kapoioi protimoun tin ekklisia fimwmeni!
na asxoleitai mono me ta theia wste na mporoun na pernane anenoxlitoi kapoioi oti theloun.synepikouroumenoi fysika apo ta mme...
ayto enoxlise!
i ekklisia einai paragontas pou kratise orthio ton ellinismo se dyskoles periodous se dyskoles perioxes!
exei dikaiwma na ekfrazei ti gnwmi tis!
toulaxiston to idio dikaiwma pou exei o kathe tragoudistis,ithopoios,synthetis!
giati na mporei o mikis theodwrakis kai o ntalaras na ekfrazoun dimosia ti gnwmi tous
kai na min mporei i elliniki ekklisia?

ta skandala pou mexri stigmis aforoun 4-5 mitropolites se synolo 80
kai allous ligous iereis se synolo 11000
xrisimopoiountai gia na provlithei o perivoitos diaxwrismos.
den kserw poia einai i periousia tis ekklisias kai an ayti apo moni tis einai ikani na epitrepsei tin epiviwsi tis ekklisias.
kserw omws
oti einai ena prwto vima
wste na xtypithei enas akoma syndetikos krikos metaxy twn ellinwn(tou 95% estw)...
paradeigmata yparxoun polla : giati me tetoia lyssa prowtheitai o anagastikos politikos gamos
otan o thriskeytikos apotelei etsi ki alliws nomiki praxi?
giati na enoxlei to dikaiwma tou kosmou stin epilogi metaxy twn dyo?

kapoios eipe giati na plirwnw forous gia tin ekklisia efoson den pisteyw?
ma tote giati o kritikos na plirwnei forous gia ena dromo ston evro otan poly pithanws den tha perasei pote apo ekei?

einai fanero
oti i elliniki ekklisia kai o arxiepiskopos xtypietai
epeidi eksefrase patriwtiko logo kai ayto enoxlise pollous.
selida tou state department anaferei ws "provlima" tin yparxi kai tin drastiriotita tis ellinikis ekklisias!
einai tyxaio ayto?
de nomizw!
edw polloi anaferoun oti oi amerikanoi enoxlountai apo ton serifi px epeidi prin 30 xronia eixe antidiktatoriki drasi(poso entoni kai ti apotelesma eixe einai syzitiseis pou prokaloun gelio aplws).
giati oi idioi den lene to idio
otan enas olokliros organismos
proferei logo antitheto stis amerikanikes epidiwkseis stin perioxi(yougoslavia,sxedio anan) ???

gia olous tous parapanw logous
symparistamai ston agwna tou arxiepiskopou
kai fysika diafwnw me ton diaxwrismo ekklisias-kratous.

ps: na paraitithei lene polloi,o arxiepiskopos.mipws paretithei o kyrios simitis otan synergates tou eneplakisan se skandala tou xrimatistiriou?
mipws paretithei o andreas papandreou otan me daneia 30 ekatomyriwn.....eftiaxe vila disekatomyriou?
mipws zitisame na gremistei to politiko oikodomima meta apo ta tosa kai tosa skandala twn politikwn mas?
ola ayta den sas vazoun se skepseis gia ton rolo kai to poion pollwn katakritwn tis ekklisias mas?

ps2: epanalamavanw oti den eimai thriskoliptos kai stin ekklisia pigainw spaniotata.ayto den simainei omws oti den sevomai kai tous thesmous pou voithisan ayto to ethnos na epiviwsei kai pou apoteloun syndetiko kriko kai vasiko systatiko tis ellados stin opoia genithika kai tin opoia latrepsa.

1)ena site den einai to idio me ena proswpo.
to sygekrimeno site
einai gnwstotato gia tin politiki tou thesi.
den nomizw oti einai roufiania diladi na anafereis to HDH pasignwsto.
oute nomizw oti kryvetai kai o vhxos kai to site tou...
pantws i alitheia einai oti me exeplikse ligo i taktiki sou
alla peran toutou ouden.
kai mias kai to thymithika : eimai eygenhs me osous me antimetwpizoun me eygeneia.
me osous den me antimetwpizoun etsi den eimai.eks ou kai to sygekrimeno post sto allo forum pou paretheses...

2)ti einai i xrysopigi einai o titlos tou topic.
kai exoun mpei arthra gia to politiko ypovathro twn melwn tis.
i xrysopigi gia ti akrivws katigoreitai?
gia politikes paremvaseis?
an nai
e tote prepei na yparksoun kai apodeikseis!
alliws den vgainei pouthena i kouventa.
as ksekatharisoume loipon
gia ti katigoreitai i xrysopigi?

ps: i ypografi mou den einai meros keimenou oute meros kapoiou vivliou ap oso kserw.
synthima grammeno se toixo einai.kai epeidi me ekfrazei tin yiothetisa!

contro la societa multiculturale...tradizione...distinzione...

twra pou emathes me poion exeis na kaneis
tha mas peis tipota gia to thema mas ?

contro la societa multiculturale...tradizione...distinzione...