- 12 STRAND DNA ACTIVATION+INDIGO - .-= ΤΟ ΠΑΡΑΞΕΝΟ =-.

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Αν ηταν απο την Σουηδια ο Panos δεν θα εβρισκα τιποτα μεμπτο στην χωρα καταγωγης.Η Σουηδια παραμενει μια ΑΞΙΟΠΡΕΠΗΣ ΚΑΙ ΣΟΒΑΡΗ ΧΩΡΑ ενω η ΗΠΑ.

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PaNo

άντε άνθρωπέ μου, άντε μπράβο, άντε να πείσεις κανένα αμερικανάκι.

Με το βεληνεκές του 15χρονου που έχεις, δεν περνάς ούτε τα βασικά.

Όσες μάσκες και άν φορέσεις...

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Φιλε "Kavafys",

άντε άνθρωπέ μου, άντε μπράβο, άντε να πείσεις κανένα αμερικανάκι.

Με το βεληνεκές του 15χρονου που έχεις, δεν περνάς ούτε τα βασικά.

Όσες μάσκες και άν φορέσεις...

Ισως θα ηθελες να εξηγησεις που το βγαζεις αυτο το συμπερασμα ?

Μασκες ?

Τελος παντων, παω για υπνο. Εχει καταντησει βαρετο να μαλωνω με διαφορους αγνωστους για καποιο ηλιθιο λογο.

ειναι 3 το βραδι εδω, πεντε η ωρα στην ελλαδα για σενα (????)

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ΠΟΦΕΥΓΕΙΣ ΝΑ ΕΞΗΓΗΣΕΙΣ ΤΟ ΑΠΕΧΘΕΣ ΣΟΥ ΣΧΟΛΙΟ ΟΠΟΥ ΕΠΕΚΡΙΝΕΣ ΤΟΝ ΠΑΝΟ
ΜΕ ΠΡΑΓΜΑΤΙΚΑ ΡΑΤΣΙΣΤΙΚΟ ΤΡΟΠΟ ΠΡΟΣΠΑΘΟΝΤΑΣ ΝΑ ΓΕΛΟΙΟΠΟΙΗΣΕΙΣ ΤΑ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ ΤΟΥ ΚΑΙ ΤΟ ΟΤΙ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝ ΕΞΩΤΕΡΙΚΟΥ.

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και ενω ειναι γνωστο στην αμερικη ακομη δεχεστε αυτα που λεει

οταν λοιπον λενε οτι αυτος ειναι αμερικανακι δεν εχουν αδικο

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12 κλωνο ντι εν εί = περιεργη θεωρία είς την οποία μερικα πραγματα ειναι ύποπτα. Ειναι αληθειά ? Δεν γνωρίζω, για τιποτα δεν μπορουμε να ειμαστε απολύτως σιγουροι. Μην ξεχναμε οτι ο Αυτισμός εχει καποια σχεση σε ορισμενες περιπτωσεις με ενα συντιριτικο με βαση τον υδραγυρο που εμπεριεχετε εις τα εμβολια MMR. Μην ξεχναμε οτι το A.D.H.D (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) ειναι over-diagnosed και σε πολλες περιπτωσεις αποτελει δηκαιολόγια για τις φαρμακευτικές εταιριες να καψουν μερικα παιδικα μυαλα με το ritalin που ειναι ομοιο με την αμφεταμινη και πραγματικα εχει τρομαχτικο πακροχρονιο αποτελεσμα στους dopamine and 'μ' neural receptors των παιδικων εγγεφάλων.

Διοτι ακομα και η ιδια η παραδοσίακη ιάτρικη εχει δηχτει να ειναι ευάλωτη συμφερόντων. Διοτι πολλοι ανθρωποι εχουν υποφερει και πολλα παιδια εχουν καταστραφει γιατι μια φαρμακευτικη θελει να βγαλει λεφτα. Διοτι αρκετα εμβολια ειναι ακομα και τωρα επικυνδηνα παρολλου του γεγονοτος οτι ακομα πλασαρονται στο κοινό. Δια ολα τα παραπανω ειναι δυσκολο για οποιοσδηποτε νοήμων ανθροπο με γνωση ιστοριας αλλα και το πως η επιστημη παντα γενοιοποιει ιδεες που μπορει να ακουγοντε τρελες μονο κν μονο ετσι ωστε να τις παραδεχετε μετα απο μερικες δεκαετιες, να καταριπτει ιδεες οριστικα.

12 κλωνο ντι εν ει και ιντιγκο παιδια ειναι κατι το οποιο βρισκω δυσκολο να πιστεψω, για να το απορηψω ως ιδεα χωρις ιχνος αληθειας ειναι επισης δυσκολο γιατι δεν υπαρρχει αποδειξη εναντιον. Αυτα τα πραγματα ειναι σαν τον Αη βασιλη. Ολοι ξερουμε οτι δεν υπαρχει αλλα κανεις δεν μπορει να το αποδηξει παντελως, παρα 'υτα ολοι ξερουμε οτι δεν υπαρχει.

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Ερευνηστε το θεμα πρωτα και αλλαξτε την διαιτα και ακολουθηστε την συμβολη μου και πηγαινετε το παιδι σε εναν ψυχολογο οχι στον ψυχιατρο να του καψει το μυαλουδάκι.

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Α, και μια ερώτηση Cavafys, τι ώρα είναι τώρα στο ... Γιου Ες Εϊ... ?

Δεν έιναι ΩΡΑ ΝΑ ΠΑ ΝΑ ΚΑΝΕΙΣ ΝΑΝΙ ???

Υπάρχει και μια αντίστοιχη ταινία την οποία διαφημίζει και το εσωτερικα αν προσέξατε, την οποία είδα,και βρήκα πολύ "λίγη"(σκηνοθετικά τουλάχιστον) μπροστα στο βιβλίο που είναι ένας πραγματικός δυναμίτης στα θεμέλια του ακαδημαικού δογματισμού των σκληροπυρηνικών υλιστών.

Αυτό που κάνει ο PaNo βασικά είναι μια σύνθεση,μια κακοφτιαγμένη και ανάλατη σαλάτα διαστρεβλωμένων προσλήψεων νέων θεωριών και αντιλήψεων για τις οποίες φαίνεται να έχει κάποια ενημέρωση. Τα βάζει όλα στο μπλέντερ και ότι βγεί...

Πηγαίνεται κατευθείαν στην πηγή και μην επιτρέπετε σε διαστρεβλωτές να σας φέρουν σε επαφή με ιδέες που πραγματικά αξίζουν.

"Τα πάντα υπάρχουν.Ότι υπήρξε κάποτε και ότι θα υπάρξει στο μέλλον,ενυπάρχει ήδη στο παρόν. Μόνο η συνείδηση μας κάνει το διαχωρισμό και δημιουργεί το αίσθημα της ιστορικής ακολουθίας και αυτό του περάσματος του χρόνου. Τα αισθήματα όμως είναι ψευδαισθήσεις,δημιουργήματα της συνείδησης μας, του τρόπου που αντιλαμβανόμαστε τον Κόσμο"

Ramtha / JZ Knight

Μαλλον κουφιο πυροτεχνημα:

Η αποψη που σχηματισα (αντιγραφη απο χθεσινο μου ποστ):

Α ναι η ταινια.

Την μελέτησα.Αθλια αποπειρα ενδυσης μεταφυσικων ιδεων με επιστημονικους ορους για να τους προσδωσουν επιπλαστο κυρος.

Μονο ενας απο αυτους που εμφανιζονται στην ταινια ειναι αξιοσεβαστος επιστημονας (και φυσικος) και ισχυριζεται οτι περασε πολυ ωρα εξηγωντας στους συντελεστες της ταινιας οτι Η ΚΒΑΝΤΙΚΗ ΜΗΧΑΝΙΚΗ ΔΕΝ ΛΕΕΙ ΟΤΙ ΑΛΛΑΖΟΥΜΕ ΤΗΝ ΠΡΑΓΜΑΤΙΚΟΤΗΤΑ ΜΕ ΑΛΛΑΓΗ ΤΗΣ ΣΥΝΕΙΔΗΣΗΣ αλλά αυτοι που του πηραν τη συνεντευξη εκαναν edit τα λόγια του και φανηκε σαν να την υποστηριζει!

Οι υπολοιποι που εμφανιζονται δεν ειναι επιστημονες.

Παρελασαν ενας χειροπρακτικος,ο DEPAK CHOPRA τσαρλατανογιατρος της αγιουβερδικης,ενας πρωην ιερέας,ενας ιαπωνας που πιστευει οτι το νερο μπορει να αισθανεται (αλλά δεν εκτελει πειραματα με controls) και η J.K.Night που φυσικα μας εκανε εισαγωγη στις βλακωδεις απόψεις της.

Ποια ειναι η κυρια?

Ειναι μια πρωην αμερικανιδα νοικοκυρα που εγινε chaneller (μεντιουμ) και λεει οτι επικοινωνει με ενα πνευμα απο την Ατλαντιδα ονοματι Ραμθα που της αποκαλυψε πολλα και θαυμαστα και της ειπε ακομα να χρεωνει ενα σακουλι με χρυσο οποιον επιθυμει να ακουσει τις διδασκαλίες του (που εκπορευονται υποθετικα απο τον RAMTHA χρησιμοποιωντας το σωμα της Night).Αποτελεσμα βεβαια ειναι να θησαυρισει η κα NIGHT απο κοροιδα που εδωσαν τα ωραια τους λεφτακια για να ακουσουν τις εξης αξιοθαυμαστες διδαχες της:

1.ΜΠΟΡΟΥΜΕ ΝΑ ΔΗΜΙΟΥΡΓΗΣΟΥΜΕ ΠΡΑΓΜΑΤΙΚΟΤΗΤΑ ΜΕ ΑΛΑΓΗ ΤΗΣ ΣΥΝΕΙΔΗΣΗΣ

2.Ο ΚΑΘΕΝΑΣ ΜΠΟΡΕΙ ΝΑ ΓΙΝΕΙ ΘΕΟΣ

ΟΠΑΔΟΙ ΑΥΤΗΣ ΤΗΣ ΚΥΡΙΑΣ ΕΦΤΙΑΞΑΝ ΑΥΤΗ ΤΗΝ ΤΑΙΝΙΑ!

Ενα ματσο μπουρδες η ταινία για όποιον γνωριζει κατιτις απο κβαντικη φυσικη,ελεγχομενα πειραματα και τον βιο και την πολιτεια των πρωταγωνιστων.

Ενα αρθρο:

WHAT THE BLEEP ARE THEY ON ABOUT:

In the movie What the Bleep Do We Know?, physicists, biologists and the occasional chiropractor tell us how quantum physics and neuroscience support their views on consciousness. But is reality really in the eye of the quantum observer? Bernie Hobbs checks out the science behind the film's claims.

The physics maybe dodgy - but the polka is spot on. Image: iStockphoto
When a movie gets rave reviews as a mind-blowing flick about quantum physics, it's worth checking out.

And if you're a modern thinker you'll know for a fact that quantum physics is wacky stuff. So you forgive the film's jelly-baby graphics, daggy storyline, and that Gabor sister channelling a warrior spirit from Atlantis. You'll even applaud the wedding Polka scene - there's just not enough Eastern European folk culture in contemporary film.

But when the ramblings about quantum physics start merging with fridge magnet philosophy, it's time for a little reality checking.

What the Bleep Do We Know draws heavily on the role of the observer in quantum physics. Unfortunately, it also completely misunderstands it.

Ti ισχυριζεται το bleep συνοπτικα:

The Bleep in a Nutshell:

Quantum physics tells us that reality isn't fixed - subatomic particles only come into existence when they are observed
and
Our mind has enormous potential, but we only use a small part of it for conscious thought, and we miss a lot of what's going on around us
so, in a leap of creatively edited logic
If your mind is the "observer" that quantum physics talks about, you should be able to choose which of the many possible realities around you comes into existence - you can create your own reality, and probably come off anti-anxiety medication to boot.

It sounds reasonable, and familiar. We're always being told we don't use our brain to its full capacity. And any Cognitive Behavioural Therapist can help us to change the way we see things by changing our thought patterns.

There's just this little matter of the science being a bit... bleep.

Where the Bleep they're Wrong about Quantum Physics & Reality

The quantum world is intriguing, but unless you're a particle physicist it's got very little to do with the world's reality.

The Effect of the Observer

"Quantum physics calculates only possibilities... Who/what chooses among these possibilities to bring the actual event of experience? Consciousness must be involved. The observer can’t be ignored." Amit Goswami (PhD) in What the Bleep Do We Know?

The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle argues that its impossible to track the momentum and position of a subatomic particle.

Not exactly, Amit. The observer effect of quantum physics isn't about people or reality. It comes from the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, and it's about the limitations of trying to measure the position and momentum of subatomic particles. Gripping stuff, but nothing to do with our daily lives.

Heisenberg basically says you can't get a really accurate fix on both the position and the momentum of a subatomic particle - say an electron - at the same time. You can be accurate in one or the other, but not in both. (It's all to do with photons of light from your measuring instrument hitting the poor electron and knocking it for six). It's actually the machine that's the observer, not the human who's jotting down results.

Particles Popping Into & Out of Existence

"Physical reality is absolutely rock solid, yet it only comes into existence when it bumps up against another piece of physical reality - like us, or a rock." Dr. Jeffrey Satinover (psychiatrist, PhD candidate in physics), in What the Bleep Do We Know?

The bits and pieces of matter that make up sub-atomic particles (protons, neutrons and electrons) don't exist in any handy, measurable way unless they're interacting with one another. Once they do bump into each other they form their regular little selves.

But this only applies to sub-atomic particles - a rock doesn't need you to bump into it to exist. It's there. The sub-atomic particles that make up the atoms that make up the rock are there too.

And it certainly doesn't depend on an observer to make this happen. As long as a sub-atomic particle is interacting with another sub-atomic particle, they'll both exist regardless of where you are or what you're doing. (Physicists should take part of the blame for this confusion. When they use the word 'observe', they actually mean 'interact with', not look at or think about.)

"Particles appear and disappear - where do they go when they're not here? One possible answer: they go to an alternative universe where people are asking the same question: 'where'd they go?'" Fred Alan Wolf, PhD in What the Bleep Do We Know?

They don't go anywhere, Fred. Quantum physics doesn't need them to. Particles are fluctuations - the rules of physics say it's perfectly fine for them to exist at some time and/or place and to be non-existent at another time and/or place.

Where The Bleep They're Wrong About Our Minds Perceiving Reality

"Your mind can't tell the difference between what it sees and what it remembers" Dr Joseph Dispenza (Chiropractor ) in What the Bleep Do We Know?

Scans reveal brain activity differs when seeing an object as opposed to when one reminisces.

Dr Dispenza claims (correctly) in the movie that brain scans - PET (Positron Emission Tomography) and Functional MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) - show that the same part of your brain lights up whether you're looking at something or just remembering it. But it's quite a leap to say the brain doesn't know the difference between vision and memory.

The brain wasn't born yesterday. Given a few contextual clues, like whether the eyelids are open or shut, it can work out whether it's seeing something or remembering it. And there's the matter of scale - the brain lights up in scans much more brightly when you're seeing something than when you're reminiscing.

"Our brain receives 400 billion bits/second of information, but we're only aware of 2000 bits/second. Reality is happening in our brain all the time - we're receiving it but it's not being integrated." Andrew B Newberg, (MD, Radiologist), in What the Bleep Do We Know?

The figures are a bit rubbery, but the idea that we're only 'aware' of a fraction of our brain's activity is both correct and a huge relief.

What could be worse than being aware of every tiny detail that your brain handles - from phosphate levels to heart rate and hair growth. It'd be like being the CEO of a massive company and having to listen to what every single employee was doing every minute of every day. Staff meetings are tedious enough - give me a conscious mind with a decent filter device any day.

The only problem with Andrew Newberg's statement is that it suggests our subconscious brains are doing really interesting stuff and we're somehow missing out; if only we could harness that other zillion gigabits or so we'd be masters of our destinies. If it's true, no one's been able to measure it or see the effects.

"We only see what we believe is possible -Native American Indians on Caribbean Islands couldn't see Columbus's ships [sitting on the horizon] because they were beyond their knowledge" Dr. Candace Pert (former scientist, current new-age guru) in What the Bleep Do We Know?

It's hard to say where Candace Pert got the low-down on what the Native American Indians did or didn't see when Columbus and the gang hit the horizon. Columbus certainly didn't speak the language, and the locals didn't keep written records. Only the Shaman knows, and we're about 500 years too late to ask him.

But she is right about us not seeing things in front of our eyes if we're not looking for them. A classic experiment on visual processing involves asking people to watch a video of 6 people passing a basketball, and press a button every time a particular team has possession. Invariably only about half the people tested ever notice a woman in a gorilla suit walking across the middle of the screen during the game. We're such a shallow people.

Where The Bleep They're Wrong About our Minds Affecting Reality:

The movie gives two examples of experiments which have shown the power of the mind affecting reality. Neither of them convincingly achieve this.

The Effect of Meditation on Violent Crime in Washington, DC.

Attempting to reduce violent crimes via meditation in the real world produced results that stated otherwise. Image: iStockphoto
John Hagelin, PhD, describes a study he did in Washington in 1992. 4000 volunteers regularly meditated to achieve a 25% drop in violent crime by the end of summer. He claims the drop was achieved.

But Hagelin's use of the term "achieved" for the drop in crime is a bit strong. He announced in 1994 (one year after the study) that violent crime had decreased 18%. You might think that meant there were 18% fewer violent crimes than in the previous year, but the decrease was actually relative to his predicted increase based on some fancy statistical footwork. Regular indicators of violent crime told a different story - the number of murders actually went up.

The meditation may not have helped the victims of violent crime, but it did win Hagelin the 1994 Ig Nobel Peace Prize.

The power of thoughts on water

"If thoughts can do that to water, imagine what our thoughts can do to us" observed a fan of Dr Masaru Emoto in the movie.

Dr Emoto takes photos of crystals formed in freezing water. According to his books, water exposed to loving words shows brilliant and attractive patterns, while water exposed to negative thoughts forms incomplete patterns. These photos may well be art - they're sure as hell not science.

If you wanted to study the impact of spoken, drawn or written sentiments on the formation of crystals in freezing water, you'd have to do a slightly more rigorous study. For starters you'd have to take a lot of samples from different parts of each ice specimen. And you'd do the study without knowing what had been 'said' to the water specimens, so your subjective opinions wouldn't colour the results.

Magician and skeptic James Randi, famous for debunking performers like Uri Geller, has offered his standard prize of $1 million cash money to Dr Emoto if he can get the same results when doing the water study this way. To date, Dr Emoto has not taken up the challenge. He has however just released his third book of pretty crystal pictures.

What the Bleep Does It Matter? It's Just A Movie
It is just a movie. And I came out of wanting to meditate more often, which can't be a bad thing. (I haven't).

But when you get hit with so much information that's been edited to within a frame of its life, things get a bit confusing. And while I'm no quantum physicist, my yoga teacher - a big fan of the movie - was starting to sound like she was. It was clearly time to check the facts for myself.

So thanks to Associate Professor Zdenka Kuncik, Professor Peter Schofield and Professor Max Coltheart for shedding some light on the Bleeping thing.

Οπως δεν μπορουμε επισης να κανουμε κριτικη και συκγριση μεταξυ καποιων λαων που ειχαν πολιτισμο με καποιους αλλους που πηραν μαθηματα πολιτισμου και Δημοκρατιας οπως και μαθηματα Τεχνης,παιδειας,ανθρωπιας,μουσικης.

Εγω σεβομαι ολους τους λαους, ολοι εχουν καποια θετικα και προσοδοφορα στοιχεια που κοσμουν το μωσαικο δεντρο της ανθρωποτητας.

Ας μην κατηγορηοποιουμε λοιπον τους λαους.Ο καθε ενας προσφερει.Ειμαστε ολοι ιδιοι πανω σε ενα συστημα που πρεπει να προσεχουμε γιατι σε αυτο ζουμε.

Ισως θα ειναι καλυτερα να ενωσουμε τις γνωσεις μας για να λυνουμε τα προβληματα πιο γρηγορα και πιο ομαλα.

Στο θεμα που εχει θεσει ο Πανος...κατα την δικη μου γνωμη επειδη επιστημονικα,δηλαδη πρακτικα δεν εχουμε αποδειξει οτι υπαρχουν 12 κλωνοι DNA,δεν μπορω να το αποδεχτω...αλλα δεν το απορριπτω.

Ο χρονος παντα ειναι ο καλυτερος Ιπποκρατης που θα μας δειξει την αληθεια.

KBANTIKH MHXANIKH 1, 2, 3, WHAT THE BLEEP WE KNOW THE WHOLW MOVIE, TESLA, FREE ENERGY.

~:LOVE:~AND~:LIGHT:~

σε ενα θεμα που ρωτησες τον gretel για τα indigo αναφερεις το ετος 2012.

Λοιπον, κατα την δικη σου γνωση και φιλοσοφια...χωρις να παραθεσεις καποια link γιατι ολοι εχουμε διαβασει περι 2012....θα ηθελα με μια παραγραφο να μου πεις τι νομιζεις οτι μπορει να συμβει και γιατι στο υφος σου εχεις τοσο φοβο για το ετος αυτο.

Πανω κατω ολοι λιγο πολυ γνωριζουμε σχετικα με αυτη την ημερομηνια.

Ο Albert δεν εχει καμια σχεση με την σχολή του Ramtha (δηλαδη της J.K.NIGHT)

Dr. David Albert, one of the experts in the film, and not in any way affiliated with Ramtha's school, Professor and Director of Philosophical Foundations of Physics, Columbia University, has gone on record repeatedly saying that his views were taken out of context and that the views expressed in the movie are not consistent with current research and accepted theory in academic physics. It is interesting that he gets the LEAST camera time despite the fact that he states that he spent five hours on camera trying to explain to the directors that the concepts of physics in the movie are not current, and not consistent. He is still included in the sequel, "Down the Rabbit Hole," however.

Roger Eberts "Movie Answer Man" Submissions.

Q. I've read your review of "What the #$*! Do We Know?," a film that attempts to explain some of the more interesting aspects of quantum physics. These explanations are given by what you describe as "experts" in the field.

I am a professor of physics at the University of Massachusetts, doing research in the field of experimental particle physics. I glanced at the cast names and did not recognize any of them as leading names in the field of theoretical particle physics or cosmology. I even searched for their names using the search engine of the High Energy Physics database, which references authors of papers appearing in the leading journals of the field. Nothing came up.

I suspect that the persons appearing in the film are not physicists who have a rigorous training in the very mathematical and non-metaphysical theory of quantum mechanics. If this is indeed the case, then I warn you that the content of the film may have little or nothing to do with the actual theory of quantum mechanics.

Carlo Dallapiccola, Amherst, Mass.

A. Since the expert who made the most sense to me was JZ Knight, who claims to be channeling Ramtha, a 35,000-year-old mystical sage from the lost continent of Atlantis, this does not come as a shock.

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Οι δημιουργοι της ταινίας ειναι οπαδοι και συνεργατες της σχολής που ιδρυσε η chaneller J.K.NIGHT

William Arntz, Betsy Chasse, and Mark Vicente directed, wrote, and produced the movie. All three are either teachers or devotees of Ramtha.

Oι υπολοιποι "ειδικοί" που παρουσιαζονται στην ταινια;

Ενας χειροπρακτικος (οπαδος της RAMTHA-J.K.NIGHT)

Dr. Joe Dispensa, the chiropractor in the movie who 'creates his day,' is a devoted pupil of Ramtha, and in fact, the 'create my day' teaching is not his, but what he learned from Ramtha, and has nothing to do with quantum physics. He learned other things from Ramtha too...like not to listen to Ramtha's financial advice. He has testified in court that he invested over $10,000 in an investment scheme that Ramtha suggested because "bad times are coming." and the investment would make them fabulously wealthy, it turned out to be a scam that even Ramtha believed. Others at RSE bought into this as well. It all went south and they all lost their money. Maybe Dispensa is trying to get some of his money back.

Μια ενδοκρινολόγος που μας κανει εναν πολυ κουφο ισχυρισμο:οτι οι ιθαγενεις που συναντησαν τον Κολομβο για πρωτη φορα δεν μπορουσαν να δουν τα πλοια του (κυριολεκτικα) επειδη αυτα τα πλοια δεν ηταν μερος του γνωσιακου τους-συνειδισιακου τους συστηματος (!!!!!!!!!)

The mention in the film, by Dr. Candice Pert, a famous enodcrinologist who isolated endorphin receptors, of the natives not seeing Columbus' ships, has absolutely no support. In fact, the reference is to "Spanish Clippers," but clipper ships were not even built until over one hundred years later, bad choice of words maybe. It still casts doubt on the veracity of such claims. There are parrallel claims that pygmy natives can't see photographs, that they only see blank paper. Go figure.

O Δρ Μasura Emoto που ισχυριζεται οτι το νερο μπορει και αισθανεται αλλα τα πειραματα που εκτελει ειναι για κλαμματα.Ο Δρ Εμοτο θησαυριζει απο το "ευλογημενο" νερο που πουλαει...

Dr. Masura Emoto - the segment of the film depicting the supposed influence of human thought on water. This is really compelling.....but full of holes. Here are few problems.....

Ποιος μπορει να θεωρησει αυτο το πείραμα αξιοπιστο??

a. The film doesn't mention that Dr. Emoto, as detailed in his book, froze the water in petri dishes to a temperature of -4 degress farenheit for 3 hours, you have to do this to get crystals in the first place, but the water has to be slightly thawed in order to see crystals with a microscope. Also, in the movie, the background of the negative and positive crystals show different background colors.

b. The bottles, prior to placement in the dishes, were labelled with negative or positive thoughts. Dr. Emoto does not mention if this is a 'blind' experiment, that is, whether he knew what crystals were from what bottle and it's negative or positive message.

c. This is the problem...there are hundreds of crystals in a single drop of water, and, like snowflakes (a solid crystaline structure that is frozen as well), no two are alike. It's very easy to pick the pretty ones for the positive thoughts and ugly ones from negative thoughts. Consequently, crystalline lattices in frozen water are infinitely variable and every collection has both well formed and bad formed. This is a mere 'emotionalization' of a purely natural phenomena. As an aside...a high school psychology class in Durango Colorado could not find any signifcant association between the message and the crystals, though they did find that the source of the water was important because water from specific places formed crystals that were similar in structure moreso than the message on the bottle.

d. Dr. Emoto sells his "blessed" water for $65 per bottle.

Ενας πρωην ιερεας που το παιζει "θεολογος" που εχασε την θεση του κατω απο το βαρος κατηγοριων για σεξουαλικες σχεσεις που συναψε με μαθητες του και τωρα διδασκει στην σχολη της RAMTHA.

The "theologian" in the film, Dr. Michael Ledwith, was ordained as a Catholic priest in 1967, he later became "Monsignor Michael Ledwith" and was a professor at St Patrick's College, Maynooth, Ireland. He serves as the representative of the Christian view in the movie. The Bleep web site mentions this with the "WAS" in place. He is also a "master teacher" at Ramtha's school. So...go from being professor of a major Irish Seminary to teaching for Ramtha?? He was dismissed for charges of sexual relations with several students. There are tons of writen accounts on the internet, including Irish child abuse authority web sites.
The comments Dr. Ledwith makes about Christianity in the movie essentially trash the whole notion of 'organized religion.'
This is not surprising considering his past, and it is clear that he doesn't represent Christianity very well

Οι παρακατω που εμφανιστηκαν στην ταινια,εχουν μιλησει σην σχολη της RMATHA και εχουν πουλησει βιβλια εκει:

Fred Allen Wolf, Dr Candice Pert, Amit Gotswami, John Haglin ,Joe Dispenza, and Miceal Ledwith have all spoken at Ramtha's school, and sold books there.

Ειναι αυτοι οι "ειδικοι" καταλληλοι για να μιλησουν για την κβαντικη φυσικη?Επίσης μπορουμε να τους θεωρησουμε αξιοπιστους και ειλικρινεις?

First, even though these 'experts' are unquestionably credible in their respective fields, the views expressed in the movie seems to be such that they are not "doing science" in such a way that their professional credentials and research are what's at stake, nor the source of their discussions. They are not "being physicists," they are talking about some of the more esoteric implications of a branch of physics that actually only a few of them are qualified to comment on, and one of them who is has publicly claimed that he was not truthfully represented and that the general views in the film are not based on current research. Incidentally, I see Dr. Albert as being the most philosophically inclined since he deals specifically with philosophical problems of quantum physics, and he's the dissenter. It would have been better for the Chiropractor to do this, but not a philosopher and physicist.

These people aren't under the gun to teach straight physics....while they "might" be being sincere at moments, and there are compelling moments, it seems like something else is going on. If indeed Ramtha is at the bottom of all this, and it looks like he/she/it is, then we are left with a gloss of quantum indeterminacy with the same old "you have hidden powers inside you" and "create your own reality" in a new package. This is what it really looks like, but with an air of academic authenticity. I feel duped. Having studied philosophy of science and theology at the graduate level, I feel embarassed. As a philosopher, intellectual honesty is an incredibly important value, and I thought that's what was going on. I think differently now based on a larger view of the movie. The claims about conscioussness and matter in the movie aren't supported in the movie. The case of water crystals and meditating monks is not sufficient to support the views espoused in the film.

Τι εκαναν οι παραγωγοι της ταινίας μετα απο την πρωτοφανη επιτυχια της:Πουλησαν και αλλα βιβλια,CD ktl και διεδωσαν τις διδασκαλιες του RAMTHA.Εκαναν συγκεντρωσεις-σεμιναρια σε πολλα μερη οπου οι ερωτοαπαντησεις δεν αφορουσαν την κβαντικη μηχανικη αλλα τις διδασκαλίες της Ramtha (j.k.night)

After the premiere of the movie there was tremendous interest (Bleep has grossed over 10 million to date), and, as we know, the film's popularity spread tremendously. But that is not the whole story....Ramtha's students, numbering up to 5,000, made a rush to arrange screenings and to, no surprise here, promote Ramtha's teachings, and to sell her books, CD's, and spread the Ramtha story. The question and answer sessions held in many locations, were not about quantum physics, but about Ramtha's teachings. Even the "Create my Day" segment of Dr. Joe Dispensa, the chiropractor, was not his teaching, but what he learned from Ramtha while a student at RSE, but more later on Dr. Dispensa. Ramtha has 60 employees including a marketing director devoted to the sales and production of his/her/ teachings.

Κβαντικη φυσικη:

Να υπενθυμισω οτι αυτα που συμβαινουν στον χωρο των υποατομικων σωματιδιων δεν συμβαινουν στον μακροκοσμο.

Το φιλμ τελικα ειχε επιτυχια επειδη οι περισσοτεροι ανθρωποι:

α δεν ξέρουν bleep απο κβαντικη μηχανικη
β.βαριουνται να ρωτησουν τους ειδικους
γ.τους κολακευουν και τους δινουν ελπιδα αυτα που ακουνε στην ταινια.

ΥΓ.Ουτε και εγω ηξερα bleep απο κβαντικη μηχανικη.Αλλα εψαξα να βρω την γνωμη των ειδικων.Αυτη η ιδεα "οτι ο καθενας ΔΗΜΙΟΥΡΓΕΙ την πραγματικοτητα μονο με το μυαλο του" δεν μου καθοταν καλα,με εβαλε σε υποψιες...και με εβγαλε απο την βολη μου προς αναζητηση απαντησεων.

quote:

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τον gretel

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Aγαπητέ Skies tou Fegariou Η ΓΚΡΕΤΕΛ ανήκει στο θηλυκό γένος.

"ΣΤΟ ΣΚΟΤΑΔΙ ΤΟ ΜΑΤΙ ΣΥΛΛΑΜΒΑΝΕΙ ΚΑΛΥΤΕΡΑ ΤΟ ΠΝΕΥΜΑΤΙΚΟ ΦΩΣ"

Ολόκληρα κατεβατά (άκοπα για σένα) με 50 σημεία για να απαντηθούν,ζητείτε μ....ς να ψάχνει κανα μήνα για να τα απαντήσει...
Ελα όμως που θέλω να πάω και γω βολτίτσα...

Λοιπόν όταν ολοκληρώσω το βιβλίο θα μεταφράσω τα πιο ενδιαφέροντα σημεία του,και θα ανοίξω ένα τοπικ για να τα συζητησουμε (συζητώ δεν σημαίνει βομβαρδίζω με copy/paste),εκεί. Δεν αξίζει σε αυτό το θέμα να χαθεί μέσα σε αυτό το βλακώδες τοπικ της παράνοιας...

Απλά να κάνω μια διορθωση, η ρήση που ανέφερα πιο πανω

"Τα πάντα υπάρχουν.Ότι υπήρξε κάποτε και ότι θα υπάρξει στο μέλλον,ενυπάρχει ήδη στο παρόν. Μόνο η συνείδηση μας κάνει το διαχωρισμό και δημιουργεί το αίσθημα της ιστορικής ακολουθίας και αυτό του περάσματος του χρόνου. Τα αισθήματα όμως είναι ψευδαισθήσεις,δημιουργήματα της συνείδησης μας, του τρόπου που αντιλαμβανόμαστε τον Κόσμο"

δεν ανήκει στο Ramtha της JZ Knight αλλά στον διάσημο βρετανό αστροφυσικό Fred Hoyle (πάντα τους μπερδευω αυτούς τους δύο) χεχεχε

Το ζήτημα θέλει πολύ ψάξιμο και τα πράγματα δεν είναι τόσο απλά όσο νομίζεις ότι είναι...Καλά θα ήταν να είχαμε τις απαντήσεις σε όλα τα ερωτήματα,αλλά δυστυχώς δεν τις έχουμε...

Θα σου δώσω ένα απλό παραδειγματάκι για να καταλάβεις ότι η πολύ σιγουριά κάνει κακό στην αναζήτηση της γνώσης.

Λες

Μια ενδοκρινολόγος που μας κανει εναν πολυ κουφο ισχυρισμο:οτι οι ιθαγενεις που συναντησαν τον Κολομβο για πρωτη φορα δεν μπορουσαν να δουν τα πλοια του (κυριολεκτικα) επειδη αυτα τα πλοια δεν ηταν μερος του γνωσιακου τους-συνειδισιακου τους συστηματος (!!!!!!!!!)

Για διάβασε τώρα και αυτό

Η σελίδα είναι απο το βιβλίο των καθηγητών του πανεπιστημιου Αθηνών Μάνου Δανέζη και Στράτου Θεοδοσίου "Το σύμπαν που αγάπησα-Εισαγωγή στην Αστροφυσική"

Μήπως είναι και αυτοί ψευδοεπιστήμονες? Να φωνάξουμε τον θείο Randi
να τους ξεσκεπάσει? Ποιοί είναι πια οι καλοί επιστήμονες? Μόνο αυτοί που δηλώνουν υποταγή στους σύγχρονους ιεροεξεταστες του σκληροπυρηνικού ακαδημαικού κατεστημένου των δογματικών υλιστών?